CSAC Note - We have nothing archived for 11/20. The first advisory is from 11/19 and the second is from 11/21, but wouldn't have been available until that afternoon. This is Nick in the Avalanche Center at 3:05 pm, Friday, November 19, 2004. Southern Mountains DISCUSSION The weather models are handling the speed of our incoming storm quite differently, especially by Sunday. If the slower solution verifies there will be more total accumulation over the weekend. Look for snow to begin in the Steamboat zone this evening and slowly spread southward overnight. This system will favor the Front Range with upslope conditions, especially west of Ft Collins, and the San Juans as the low tracks along the southern CO border. Look for temperatures to fall about 10 degrees and winds to increase slightly through the weekend. Snow could continue to fall into early week if the system stalls. The forecast details: Tonight: Mostly cloudy by morning, 0-1 possible. Winds S-SW/5-15. Lows 14-24. Saturday: Cloudy, showers-light snow, 3-5 favoring S side RMP. Winds S-SW/5-15 G20. Highs 16-26. Sat night: Light snow, 4-8, again favoring S side of RMP. Winds SSW/5-15 G20s. Lows 13-23. Sunday: Light snow, 4-7 possible. Winds S/5-15. Highs 14-24. SNOWPACK If the snow forecast verifies over the weekend we will see an increased backcountry avalanche danger by later Saturday. Slopes of most concern are near and above timberline that face NW-NE due to a shallow, and generally weak, snow cover in most mountain areas. The exceptions are in the Steamboat zone and around Wolf Ck Pass. But even in these areas wherever the snow has remained shallow the new snow will add stress to a faceted snow structure at the higher elevations. Consistent, easy shears were found today in the Loveland Pass area where the snowpack was 0-75 cm deep. In the Western San Juans the backcountry avalanche danger near and above treeline on NW-N-NE aspects is LOW with pockets of MODERATE. A persistent weak layer of faceted snow near the ground could fail under the weight of a skier. On other aspects near and above treeline, the danger is LOW. Watch for an increasing danger. In the Wolf Creek Pass area the backcountry danger remains overall LOW for now at all elevations and aspects. Watch for potential significant drifting in avalanche starting zones by Sunday. N Logan This is Dale in the Avalanche Center at 3:45 pm, Sunday, November 21, 2004. Southern Mountains DISCUSSION A storm system southern CA swept abundant snows into southern CO but did little for the N mtns. In the San Juans light to moderate snows have continued all day especially in W San Juans. Expect snows will taper this afternoon but may increase for a short time this evening. As the storm moves eastward near El Paso it will fuel some clouds and even a few showers over the far south on Monday. A weak system on Tuesday may bring cooler temperatures and a little snow to the N mtns on Tuesday. The forecast details: Tonight: Light-mod afternoon snow, 2-4" on S sides; 1-3" on N sides, becoming mostly cloudy, light snow overnight, 1-3" add. In E San Juans (Wolf Creek Pass area) only a T-2" this afternoon and a T-2" overnight. Winds S/10-20 G30s above TL. Lows 12-22. Monday: Cloudy, snow showers, T-2" decrease in afternoon. Winds V/5-15. Highs 20-30. Lows 10-20. Tuesday: Mostly cloudy, chance for afternoon showers. Winds W-NW/5-15. Highs 20-30. SNOWPACK Storm totals in San Juans: about 16 to 30+ inches with the higher amounts on Red Mountain and Lizardhead Passes. There was just enough southerly wind to cause blowing snow overnight, so expect wind-drifted soft slab at higher elevations. At lower elevations the recent snows are perched on surface hoar, crust, or facets (or all three). Control work along 550 resulted in 6 soft slab avalanches all treeline and running on surface hoar. No visibility above TL. Also today we received word of an ice climber injured in an avalanche outside of Silverton (Eureka). Locally in the Wolf Creek Pass where less snow fell forecasters Knox, Mark, and Spencer report fewer problems. Control work by the ski area resulted in about a half dozen shallow soft slabs. For the West San Juans I am keeping the danger at HIGH with the WARNING in effect. Both natural and human triggered avalanches are likely. Backcountry travelers in the W San Juans should avoid all slopes steeper than 30 degrees and avoid being under steep slopes. Ice climbers should be especially leery. In the Wolf Creek Pass area and East San Juans I am easing the backcountry danger to CONSIDERABLE near and above treeline, MODERATE below treeline. Good snow fell in the Crested Butte zone of the C Mtns with early reports this morning of 6 inches at Crested Butte, McClure Pass, 8; Gothic, 8.5; Marble, 9; and estimating from remote instrumentation about 18 inches at Schofield Pass. No afternoon updates to report. The backcountry avalanche danger in the Crested Butte zone and including the entire Elks and W Elk Mountains for areas above 10,000 feet the danger is MODERATE, but pockets of CONSIDERABLE exist in Kebler and Schofield Pass areas. Below about 10,000 feet the danger is LOW with pockets of MODERATE. Extra caution is needed for backcountry travel in the Crested Butte zone. The rest of the C mtns and all of the N mtns basically from Aspen to Leadville and northward and including the Sawatch Range were the have-nots in terms of snowfall, so the backcountry avalanche danger remains generally LOW below timberline. Near and above treeline the danger is LOW with pockets of MODERATE on NW-N-NE aspects, and cross-drifted gullies on slopes 35 degrees and steeper. Normal cautions are needed in the C & N mtns. Atkins